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Automatic In-fills and Phasing

9/2/2010

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Have you ever demolished a door? I bet you did. What Revit does, is to automatically create an infill which replaces the opening in the wall. This is great, also considering that the infill will properly show as "New" and the rest of the wall "Existing", and setting up construction plans is a breeze.
Now, if you have more than two phases, and you are trying to show those infills as new, in a phase in the future of when you demo'd the element, then Revit will "see" both the (E) wall and the automatic infill as "Existing". Then, no matter what phase filter you apply, there will be no way to show the infill different from the wall. In other words, they will blend together.
This is an example when you would really use phases for the in-fills, which also makes practical sense because if a contractor removes an existing door, it does not mean that he will immediately frame and fill the opening. The in-fill may actually be built any other phase in the future...
The only work around I found is the old trick of the overlapping plan views. You need to create another plan view, where everything is off except your in-fills. Then set the phase filter to display them black, and overlap this plan on your new floor plan view. At least, after the initial setup, everything will be fully BIM intelligent.
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Frederic H.
1/14/2011 11:22:52 am

Gio,

why don't you place the infill part in its own workset and adjust the visibility setting of this workset so you can show it only when needed?

just an idea

Fred

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Gsucci
2/14/2011 06:15:26 am

Hi Fred,
thank you for your idea, however, infill elements have a limited amount of parameterr, and the workset is not among them...

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giovanni
2/14/2011 06:37:15 am

Hi Fred,
yes, using Worksets would work. At that point, the user would have to place all infills on a "Infills" custom workset, whose visibility can be manipulated at will.
But then it is also possible to change the wall type of the infill, maybe creating a special wall type for them, and filtering views by that wall type...
Either way, the accuracy of the model is always delegated to the user, which is not preferable, in my opinion... :)

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Ieuan Uys link
9/16/2014 11:07:35 pm

Howzit, I use phasing but I also make a separate wall type for the new walls so that they show up in plan and section.

My only problem is that when I view these infills in elevation they show vertices even though the infill is flush with the wall.

Join geometry, cut geometry... etc etc - nothing that I try works.

How would I go about fixing this?

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Rose Crawford link
12/23/2020 07:39:07 am

Hello thanks for posting this

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    Giovanni Succi is a project designer living and working in San Francisco. He is a LEED AP, and for the last twenty years he has been researching the field of computer graphics, 3D modeling, rendering, and architectural design.
    Giovanni was an in-house Revit trainer at former Chong Partners Architecture (now Stantec), and he was a member of the Stantec's BIM Best Practice Committee, San Francisco office. He has also served as BIM Manager at HOK San Francisco, and Heller Manus Architects.

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